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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know what got in to me but I'll never do it this way again...not on the '500' badges Rolling Eyes ....next time brush paint and wipe or peel paint off the raised numbers with my a thumbnail...not mask and spray acrylic lacquer.










The 'SUZUKI' fuel tank emblems are easier to do the mask and spray technique. Here is one of them. I just 'flaked' off any remaining old paint with the corners of a small scrap piece of 1/8" plexiglass as to not scratch the textured background.






A little touch up and you're done. Arrow



Spare sidecover



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spurlock wrote:
Wow! That's a delicious treat for the eyes,....
Yep, I have always loved looking at those old pics from an ebay listing many years ago. When I bought my T500 about 24 years ago with only 1900 miles on it, it looked if not as good.....just a hair away from it. The bike pictured had been restored and I don't remember if it ever sold or not. It is the Cobra T500s that bring big money after being restored....not a big profit....just a decent price. Wink

You had mentioned in the past that you had a friend that had a T500. What year? Have you got a picture of it?

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dorT500 wrote:
spurlock wrote:
Wow! That's a delicious treat for the eyes,....
Yep, I have always loved looking at those old pics from an ebay listing many years ago. When I bought my T500 about 24 years ago with only 1900 miles on it, it looked if not as good.....just a hair away from it. The bike pictured had been restored and I don't remember if it ever sold or not. It is the Cobra T500s that bring big money after being restored....not a big profit....just a decent price. Wink

You had mentioned in the past that you had a friend that had a T500. What year? Have you got a picture of it?


No picture, and I don't remember the year but it looked just like the picture above as I recall, except it had the metallic gold color scheme. I bored the cylinders for him and he rode it for a few years after that, but then moved to northern Idaho and parked it, "too many moose on the roads" he says.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, this is as good as it gets for me on these salvage yard parts. I'll call them my practice painting parts. I'm satisfied with them considering the material I used and dislike of any kind of painting.

Thanks go to Paul again for some tips via private message.

Waited four weeks before waxing and just before I waxed the sidecover, a bungee cord hook flung back and put a tiny ding in the righthand upper corner. I'll deal with it later. Good grief....just like how a brand new car becomes a magnet for dings.

The CCI decals that are available are not correct, at least not the one I got from Suzuki. As pictured the original, lettering is bolder.

I put the same 500 emblem on both pieces for illustration purposes. I didn't like the way the other one turned out so it's a do over.



Salvage yard spare sidecover off of an earlier model...








They do look better than the last two shots below show.












I'll let Marbles Motors paint the original oil tank, fuel tank and the nice OEM sidecover I got off ebay awhile back when I can afford them. Smile

Hocus Focus. See something missing on one piece that should be on both? Wink



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Those covers look really nice Dor, and I understand not enjoying painting. Lots of fastidious elbow grease needed, but modern paints seem to work like magic. Great job!

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The panels look real good. The paint is nice and even and the metallic isn't mottled. If you're looking for a real deep shine consider one of the 2K clears. Sometimes I think we're spoiled by the paint that's available on the modern bikes and cars. Stuff that was painted back in the seventies just didn't have the same finish that we're used to today.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys and for the record, early on in the first private message Paul had advised me if I wanted a nice deep shine, I should consider a two part clear instead of the acrylic lacquer Dupli-clear (fuel spill also an issue) but I think at that point I had already put 2 or three coats of Duplicolor clear on the sidecover but no clear on the oil tank yet.....I decided to go ahead and use the same clear on the oil tank. I did not want to take the chance that there may be some kind of bad reaction. I have always thought that it is best not to mix different manufacturers products......not even the primer but on further thought after the fact, I'm sure it would have been fine, just product ignorance on my part.

However, I did want to run the product below by you. I have decided to go ahead and paint my pitiful looking original fuel tank for the time being leaving off the pinstriping until I have a pro paint the original body set. A friend that is into model planes and use to be into remote control planes sent me a link to research and consider... http://www.kenonhobby.com/Top-Flite-LustreKote-Spray-Crystal-Clear-10oz-_p_44677.html

Just a little curious about it. Thoughts? Again, I'm not sure if it will play nice with the Duplicolor acrylic lacquer paint I will be using again. I'll probably call the manufacturer Monday to ask a few questions.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dorT500 wrote:
Thanks guys and for the record, early on in the first private message Paul had advised me if I wanted a nice deep shine, I should consider a two part clear instead of the acrylic lacquer Dupli-clear (fuel spill also an issue) but I think at that point I had already put 2 or three coats of Duplicolor clear on the sidecover but no clear on the oil tank yet.....I decided to go ahead and use the same clear on the oil tank. I did not want to take the chance that there may be some kind of bad reaction. I have always thought that it is best not to mix different manufacturers products......not even the primer but on further thought after the fact, I'm sure it would have been fine, just product ignorance on my part.

However, I did want to run the product below by you. I have decided to go ahead and paint my pitiful looking original fuel tank for the time being leaving off the pinstriping until I have a pro paint the original body set. A friend that is into model planes and use to be into remote control planes sent me a link to research and consider... http://www.kenonhobby.com/Top-Flite-LustreKote-Spray-Crystal-Clear-10oz-_p_44677.html

Just a little curious about it. Thoughts? Again, I'm not sure if it will play nice with the Duplicolor acrylic lacquer paint I will be using again. I'll probably call the manufacturer Monday to ask a few questions.

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Dor, thanks for sharing that link. That Top-Flite stuff sounds good. It would be handy to have a one-part product around for small parts that you want to be fuel proof, rather than activating the catalyst in a two-part product for painting a single part and having the remainder of the can set up on the shelf.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

....and for those that don't know about this product Arrow Aero Gloss.. http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-11182-aero.html mainly for the transition from paint to bare metal.

I recently got a bottle of it. I didn't shop around but I paid $5.99 plus shipping for a 1 oz. bottle of the stuff.

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oops....old product link no worky.....stand by Wink
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http://www.rchobbiesandmore.com/Midwest_Aerogloss_Clear_1_oz_65_1-details.aspx
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Looks like good stuff, it would be real handy to have around as Bill said. let us know what you find out about using it over other spray paint. I've used some RC paint called Aero Gloss over Dupli Color to seal around the fuel cap neck. It's a brush on clear and seems to have held up well without any damage to the Dupli Color. Lyle had recommended it a few years ago.

If you decide later on that you want to try the 2K, you can scuff the panels and spray it on.

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Oops Embarassed I didn't see your post about the Aero Gloss before I posted mine. I found the Aero Gloss at a local hobby shop. He was glad to get rid of it, I guess they don't sell much of it anymore.

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A little 'bling' never hurt. Smile Polished stainless steel rear axle/hub spacer, rear axle jam nut and castle nut, rear passenger peg hinge pins and drive chain adjuster bolts. Ebay pics here....I bought the spacer first and have it (pictured with my parts inspector...he turns charcoal grey if he finds a flaw) and the other parts should be here tomorrow. I'll probably ask the seller for a few other bits also.

Also shown is some chrome trim (automotive door edge guard trim) that is a great match for the worn out and broken fuel tank trim on the T500.

















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I've been looking for a good used 'vintage' luggage trunk for a few years. Well, I never found a good used 40 yr old example but I did find a 30 year old brand new one still in the original box but there would be some vinyl auto wrap or painting of the side panels and lid involved. I was not too keen on the lights, that is the extra power drain, but I figured using a couple of led bulbs just for the brake circuit would be alright. It took a few days before I bought it but it finally did 'grow on me'.

First group of pics is from ebay seller..






Carefully breaking adhesion of panels







Here the panel is just sitting loose, not adhered on yet.


Old bulbs changed to LED



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