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Thomas8
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 10:20 am    Post subject: Seat Restoration Reply with quote

I'm planning to rebuild the seat on my '75 RD350. The base, bright trim and cover are nearly perfect, but the foam is broken down and every time I ride it creases appear in the cover that I fear will crack sooner or later. Because this original seat is otherwise still so nice and missing only the buddy strap, I'm just going to set it aside and preserve it. I bought a more worn assembly on ebay to restore. I was lucky to find one with a good base and a good bright trim strip at a very reasonable price. I plan to replace its cover and foam, and I'll strip and refinish the base.

Does anyone have a preferred vendor, ebay or otherwise, for the new foam and cover that I'll need?

I've spotted several ebay sellers for both parts. Most are in the US but a couple are in the UK. Cover prices range from $25 to $175. Foam pads cost between $45-$100. I wonder if these all come from the same manufacturer and the sellers are actually re-sellers? You can also get complete seat assembles from India and other points east that bear only a passing resemblance to the original. I'll skip those.

I'm really interested to learn of your experiences in this area, and not just with Yamaha RDs, but with other brands and models as well.

Here's a photo of the seat that I bought on ebay. It didn't come from a breaker, but from a fellow who said he's building a cafe racer and is changing to a different seat. I had to laugh when I pulled it out of the box. It had been gift wrapped! That was very nice because it arrived right after my birthday.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2017 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avoid the covers from Thailand. Seat Clone in Bangkok sells on EBay. I just went round and round with them on a cover for my 1973 Harley Aermacci 125. They advertised an exact OEM replica for around $70
Their pics look great. But when the cover arrived it was cheap low quality thin vynil. The seams were crooked and uneven. I had to pay $22 to return it. They shipped another and it arrived looking just as bad as the first one. I got a refund from Paypal.
There are several sellers who are just a middle man for Seat Clone. Vintage Spoke in Kansas is one of them. If the part number starts with SC- you can bet it is a Seat Clone product.
Make sure the cover is MADE in USA with marine grade material. I have bought from Mac Seat covers on Ebay. He makes good quality seat covers in Illinois at reasonable prices but is not able to apply the OEM logo.
I'm still looking for a vendor who makes good quality seat covers with the OEM logo. The only seat covers I have found with logos are low quality.
Good luck!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Muzzleloader wrote:
Avoid the covers from Thailand...


It's kind of amazing how many different opinions there are on this topic. I posted my questions here and on a couple of Facebook pages. Some people said the covers from Pit Replica in Thailand are just the best. Others swear by HVC Cycle, in Nebraska.

One thing I've noticed in the ebay ads is that most of the product photos don't show the rope sewn into the cover's inner edge to catch the hooks on the seat pan, as per OEM. The cover from HVC Cycle does not have the rope. One fellow sent me photos, showing how he needed to rivet a tack strip to the seat pan to grab the new HVC Cycles cover.

I've written to several sellers, asking whether their product matches the OEM design in this regard. The only reply that I've received was from Vintage Spoke, who said their cover does have the roping and attaches to the OEM hooks.

Here is a photo of the original setup on my seat with the roped edge and OEM hook visible. The item to the right of the hook is a stud for the bright trim strip. The other photo is of the guy's seat that has been modified with tack strips to accept the HVC Cycles cover that doesn't have a roped edge.

I want to keep my seat as close to stock as possible, and avoid a bunch of drllling and riveting.



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pit replica and Seat Clone are the same outfit. Pit Replica is the Ebay store name and Seat Clone is their Thai address name. From my experience with them the material and craftsmanship is seriously lacking compared to OEM. If you are building a display bike and just need a cover that looks new and has the logo than they will probably suffice. But not if you want a quality seat cover comparable to OEM for years of riding.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are pics of the Pit Replica / Seat Clone cover I received.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone have any info about gumtwo on eBay?
His products sound good.
Price is about the same as others.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've installed a couple covers sold by gumtwo. The covers were well made and fit very well. They look good, but may not be exactly the same as the originals. They seem to be a very good value to me.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

05c50 wrote:
I've installed a couple covers sold by gumtwo...Paul


Link, please?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thomas8 wrote:
05c50 wrote:
I've installed a couple covers sold by gumtwo...Paul


Link, please?



Link to his ebay store: http://stores.ebay.com/gumtwo32?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't see a cover for your bike listed, but he's adding new covers all the time. You could contact him about making one for you.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This guy is pretty good. But do be careful as some of his stuff is coming from Asia. Also do not do business with the seat restoration shop in South Florida. T.D. Bash I believe is his name. Years ago he was one of the few people actually doing seat covers and restoration for Japanese bikes, and his work at the time was very good, if he actually restores your seat. Unfortunately, these days he will take your money and/or your seat.
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