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Rusty Tank, At Home Tank Sealers, etc
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hustler
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:02 am    Post subject: Thanks Reply with quote

Soooo, after the "tests" by "genesound"and "opinions" from
others, Rusteco DOES work, just as smi481 originally
reported to this group???

And you can either do it yourself, in the backyard,
spending at least $245 for five gallons of the chemical,
to fill your tank, shipped to your house.

OR, spend $160 to have the factory treat it for 24
hours ... twice .... with a technician high pressure
cleaning the tank in between soaks to get out all the
loosened flakes.

Thanks "smi481" for the original information that was right
on target .... after all was said and done.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, but I can see the gears in Gene's head working. Buy the 5 gallons and ship it around to anybody who needs it.... Kind of like sharing specialty tools.

Thanks for the documentation Gene. I appreciate the offer of the video but your testimonial is enough for me. Might just have to give it a try.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D-Day wrote:
Yeah, but I can see the gears in Gene's head working. Buy the 5 gallons and ship it around to anybody who needs it.... Kind of like sharing specialty tools.

Thanks for the documentation Gene. I appreciate the offer of the video but your testimonial is enough for me. Might just have to give it a try.


Yeah but the shipping would ba a pita and expensive. I'm going out to check my washer Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After about 30.5 hours, there is still a bit of rust. I think the solution may be getting weak as I had quite a few little pieces in there. It's also kind of cold out in the garage, and they say it works better at room temperature, and best at about 140 degrees Farenheit.

I pulled it out and wiped it off with a towel and some more of the rust came off. It feels absolutely smooth now and it was totally rough when I first put it in there. I'll leave it in there overnight, but I'll bring it inside so it's warmer. I'll leave it in the same old used goo. I'm curious how far this stuff goes before it's used up.

Even with that little bit of remaining rust, it's pretty amazing that washer looked like that under all that oxidation.



This stuff isn't cheap, and they do get a pound of flesh to do tanks. I'll bet the startup costs were massive though, for all the certifications and documentation they have. I'll bet they get really big money for cleaning out ship ballasts. Cleaning nicely painted motorcycle tanks is probably kind of a nuisance and chicken feed by comparison.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: Thanks Reply with quote

hustler wrote:
Soooo, after the "tests" by "genesound"and "opinions" from
others, Rusteco DOES work, just as smi481 originally
reported to this group???

And you can either do it yourself, in the backyard,
spending at least $245 for five gallons of the chemical,
to fill your tank, shipped to your house.

OR, spend $160 to have the factory treat it for 24
hours ... twice .... with a technician high pressure
cleaning the tank in between soaks to get out all the
loosened flakes.

Thanks "smi481" for the original information that was right
on target .... after all was said and done.


I don't really quite know what to say about all that. Confused

I'm just grateful to have something that really does actually dissolve rust and doesn't screw up everything else in the process. Thanks for the heads up guys. Wink

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Years ago I recall using something I think was called Naval Jelly as a rust remover. Kind of gel-like and it was painted on then after a while rinsed off. Seemed to work as I recall. Anybody know if this stuff is still around? If so, I wonder how it compares to the Rusteco product.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Brian, good to see ya and welcome... I think you can still get Naval Jelly. I might be mistaken, but I think it might eat paint. I don't know if it eats or etches the metal too. This Rusteco stuff does not eat metal, paint, rubber, plastic, or human skin. It only stings a little if you get it in a fresh wound (hangnail). I have been using that little plastic disposable drinking cup to soak this stuff in the picture above, and it's none the worse for wear and still pliable. It really seems just like liquid soap, except that it dissolves rust if you soak it in it. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 01, 2007 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speaking of tanke sealers..........anybody no of a sealer for fiberglass tanks? One that would enable the use of modern pump gas instead of having to use race gas in it. Seems some ethanol and other items in pump gas don't always agree with the resins in the glass..???
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok Look This One Up... All I Use In My Shop, Helps With The Little Pin Holes After I Weld Up My Tanks...

www.kbs-coatings.com

Love this Stuff

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Same stuff as POR-15 Tank Sealer. Just a different name and package.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Old thread here, but I posted a Rusteco sale thread today.

I really really like this stuff, so much that I bought a 2.5 gallon size and Michael emailed me that it's on sale right now...


http://www.vjmog.com/ftopicp-4962.html#4962

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been trying to contact Rusteco to arrange having them service my rusty fuel tank.
I found 2 different Long Beach addresses.
I called and spoke to someone, but the phone connection was very poor, and I had a hard time understanding the person. the person also said that they only sell the chemical, and don't do any treating themselves.
Does anyone know if this is the case? I think Rusteco may have gone bankrupt last year, and possibly re-opened under different circumstances.

Any info is appreciated.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, apparently they closed their service business and just sell the products now.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:31 am    Post subject: Rusteco Reply with quote

Two years ago, we sent Rusteco a tank,
for their staff to clean and it came back
perfect. Darn shame they no longer
have that service.

What NOT to do .... was mentioned in "Buzz"Walneck's
magazine column recently (Walneck's Magazine).

He described some fellow who cleans
tanks for "Buzz" by putting nuts and bolts
in the tank, then placing it in a clothes Dryer,
and turning it on.

DON'T DO THIS!

A firefighter for 28 years responded that
they should make sure they are FAR, FAR away
when the dryer fires up .... because the
explosive gas fumes, remain in a gas tank for
years.

The firefighter described it as a motorcycle "hand
grenade"
going off and said folks can tape
the openings of a gas tank closed, but fumes find
a way of escaping, right into the tumbler of a
gas fired, or electric dryer, as the burner lights
or the electric coil turns red hot!!!

Even if you turn the heat on low, there are still
pilot flames on sparks that can ruin your day.

Rusteco is safe.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know I'm bumping an old topic, but I just want to be clear on a couple things before I order some Rusteco for my REALLY rusty tank.

Am I best off to order the liqued? Enough to swish it around, or will I need to submerge the tank?

Will I need to seal the tank with anything afterwards? I don't want this rusting again anytime soon.

I'm in the process of restoring a 1971 Yamaha YL-1, once the tank rust is gone I can fire it up!
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