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CB350, Resto-Mod-Cafe Project
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:18 pm    Post subject: CB350, Resto-Mod-Cafe Project Reply with quote

Always wanted to do a CB350 cafe. This build will be a mix of new technology & vintage power.
Hope to have it done spring/2014.

Bought a '72 CB350 from a friend. Here it is after getting home.


Plans are to keep the 350 engine with a few performance mods. Front forks are from a Suzuki GSX-R750, and the rear from a Honda CBR600.

Here's some pics of the progress so far.





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1972 - CB350 Rest-Mod-Cafe, current project http://vjmog.com/ftopicp-56578.html#56578
1977 CT70 - Swap Meet Scooter
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Boy! Here we go! Shocked

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As always, incredibile, Ray Shocked What parts are you using Question Idea
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:23 am    Post subject: Re: CB350, Resto-Mod-Cafe Project Reply with quote

K5 wrote:
Hope to have it done spring/2014.


Yeah, newp... im not seeing it...

im thinking fall/2013 Hell man, you already have the forks and swingarm on it, you either have rebuilt the motor completely since posting this, or have it completely torn down, cleaned, inspected, inventoried and ordered.
the HARDEST part to come at this point is fabbing a seat pan and picking a tank. even I could turn out a seat pan in 3 or 4 hours, and depending on how good that tank is that came with it, id use it or source another one... afterall without it, most people will think its a current production bike!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks

Here's a list of the parts so far.
- 2008 GSX-R750 forks, brakes, master cylinder, clip-ons & bar switches (even has a "passing" button for the high beam & 4-way flashers)
- 1999 CBR600F4 swingarm, shock, linkage & brakes
- 2000 CBR600 rear wheel
- 2009 GSX-R750 front wheel w/2008 rotors
- All Balls bearings & seals to fit the GSXR forks on the CB frame head
http://www.allballsracing.com/ click on the "Conversions" tab
- Continental Motion-Sport Radial tires, Front 120/70-17, Rear 180/55-17
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Swingarm pivot bolt is bigger than the CB's. Took the bushings out of the frame by heating the frame a little with a propane torch, then used a brass drift to knock them out. Chucked them up in the lathe and used a 25/32 bit to open the holes and a brake hone to finish sizing them.

Here's some pics






That's it for now. Still looking for a 1970 CB350 tank Smile (not my bike, but right year)

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1975 CB750K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8591.html
1977 GL1000 - Daily Driver http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8883.html
1971 CB175K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-9282.html
1972 - CB350 Rest-Mod-Cafe, current project http://vjmog.com/ftopicp-56578.html#56578
1977 CT70 - Swap Meet Scooter
2004 Rune - Cruiser
1974 RD350 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10725.html
2014 CB1100 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10949.html
2003 HD Road King
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mixer, too much to do this summer, so most of the engine work and final details will be done next winter. This being said; I did start dis-assembling the engine. Want to get the cases, head & cylinder cleaned up and bolted back together, to install it back on the bike. Biggest issue is the the engine drive sprocket to rear sprocket alignment. Will require some out of the box thinking, designing & fab work.

More to come...

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1975 CB750K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8591.html
1977 GL1000 - Daily Driver http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8883.html
1971 CB175K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-9282.html
1972 - CB350 Rest-Mod-Cafe, current project http://vjmog.com/ftopicp-56578.html#56578
1977 CT70 - Swap Meet Scooter
2004 Rune - Cruiser
1974 RD350 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10725.html
2014 CB1100 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10949.html
2003 HD Road King
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray,
do not think "outside the box" as that implies there IS a box, and that box is a limitation.... just "think" lol

simplest, easiest solution is to make it a jackshaft setup, besides that, it allows you to infinitely change gear ratios, KEEP the "easy" 530 honda chain and sprocket on the motor (using two front sprockets), convert easily to a 520 chain and sprocket for a final (using the modern CBR front and rear sprocket). its used on MANY choppers AND rockets that run a crazy wide tire/rim on a widened swingarm. you could go 17/17/15/43 or 17/17/15/40 just by turning a few bolts! (personally id run stock CB to matching CBR i think that also runs a 530 and run CBR 520 aluminum stock to stock) aka 17/17/17/42 just throwing numbers here i do NOT know off hand what "stock" is for teeth for either bike.

it can definitely handle the ponies of a cb350.


EDIT
roaring toys makes an O.S.D. kit for some rockets, so that also might be a possible answer for you. dont know the config of your bike, however if the sprocket shaft is the same as
1999-2011 Suzuki Hayabusa
2001-2008 Suzuki GSXR 1000
2006-2011 Kawasaki ZX14
2004-2005 Kawasaki ZX10
2009-2011 Yamaha R1
you may have an answer!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Checked the Roaring Toyz site. Lot of cool stuff, but didn't look like they had anything to work with the CBR swingarm. They might have an Outside Drive, but its mighty pricey $$$$

Jackshaft might be an option.

Estimating the offset between the sprockets to be about 3/4" (rough measurement). Will have a detailed measurement once engine shell is back in.

Two options come to mind...
I can gain about 1/2 - 5/8"" by milling the rear sprocket hub. Not quite enough, but closer.
The other option is to weld a stub end off another counter shaft on the one off the engine. Would have it welded professionally, just don't know if the shaft would hold up?

Maybe a combo of both or another option?

I'll look at the list of bikes you mentioned. The CBR came with a 525 sprocket. CB350 has 530's. Will run 530 sprockets, plenty of 530 sprocket sizes for the CBR

Stock sprocket sizes
CB350, 16 - 38
CBR, 16 - 45

Thanks for your interest and suggestions.

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1975 CB750K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8591.html
1977 GL1000 - Daily Driver http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8883.html
1971 CB175K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-9282.html
1972 - CB350 Rest-Mod-Cafe, current project http://vjmog.com/ftopicp-56578.html#56578
1977 CT70 - Swap Meet Scooter
2004 Rune - Cruiser
1974 RD350 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10725.html
2014 CB1100 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10949.html
2003 HD Road King
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 7:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welding a stub onto the sprocket shaft will put too much stress onto the carrier bearing and housing. If those don't break the shaft will and it'll happen to aim directly at your knee. Don't weld it. Jackshaft or osd is the way to go. In the world of gofast you pay to play. Considering the cbr and gsxr parts. You'll be into the game.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the comments. Once I have a better take on the offset of the sprockets; the fun begins.
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1975 CB750K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8591.html
1977 GL1000 - Daily Driver http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8883.html
1971 CB175K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-9282.html
1972 - CB350 Rest-Mod-Cafe, current project http://vjmog.com/ftopicp-56578.html#56578
1977 CT70 - Swap Meet Scooter
2004 Rune - Cruiser
1974 RD350 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10725.html
2014 CB1100 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10949.html
2003 HD Road King
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 5:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Took the engine apart to clean it a bit. Put the cases, cylinder & head back together to check sprocket alignment.

Here's some pics of the engine






Engine back in frame (temporarily)




Waiting on the rear sprocket. Then I can start to look at how to align them. Rough measurement is about 3/4" offset from one sprocket to the other.

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Remembering the past... Liv´n the dream

1975 CB750K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8591.html
1977 GL1000 - Daily Driver http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8883.html
1971 CB175K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-9282.html
1972 - CB350 Rest-Mod-Cafe, current project http://vjmog.com/ftopicp-56578.html#56578
1977 CT70 - Swap Meet Scooter
2004 Rune - Cruiser
1974 RD350 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10725.html
2014 CB1100 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10949.html
2003 HD Road King
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PostPosted: Thu May 09, 2013 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I honestly thought about doing that to my CL350 when I had it, very cool.
I am looking forward to seeing how you are going to support the "sub" frame that you cut to make the swing arm some what adapt to the frame. Wink

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PostPosted: Sat May 11, 2013 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now where do I put the top shock mounting bracket??? Ahhh, this might work.
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Haven't done much on this during the summer. Been looking and collecting some parts. Plan is to go with LED's .
The thing with purchasing LED lights is that most descriptions say "bright". Ended buying a few that looked good and the descriptions seemed right.

Here's what I got.

LED Headlights are the latest thing and they can cost a pretty penny. This unit is from the UK. Very, very bright. One beam for low, the two other LED's come on for high. The center light is a "parking light".


These are good turn signals, but weren't as bright as I thought they'd be.


I'm going with these. Very bright, from the front and sideways. Got them out of Amazon.


Thought about mounting these up front as supplemental lights. I'm glad I only paid $4 for them. Poorly made... won't be using them.


Visibility is important, so these LED fog lights will be mounted up front. They're only about 1" dia. Super bright! Got them on Ebay


Probably use the 4-way flasher switch on the GSXR controls for a light switch. The passing switch (momentary), will be for the strobe. This will flash the turn signals & fog lights through a preset pattern. Should get "their" attention Very Happy


Cardboard mock-up of the battery. Rectifier/regular (Honda Twins forum member Sonreir sells them for $20


Horns... left is one off an ST1300, right an aftermarket. Will probably go with the ST one (smaller, just as loud)


Some will think this is weird, but I like gauges. One on left is a typical 52mm/2". the right one is NLA, made back in the 70's. Its an Autogauge 1 1/2"


Need to do some machining, but It'll fit where the GSXR switch use to be.


Not sure how yet, but I'd like to have a hydraulic clutch. More on this later...


Relocated the front mounting tabs for the gas tank


1970 CB350 tank. Still need to fab the rear mount.


Working on the rear swingarm. Fab'd up some brackets. Much more to do.


Progress will be slow, but still hoping to have it done for May/June 2014.

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Remembering the past... Liv´n the dream

1975 CB750K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8591.html
1977 GL1000 - Daily Driver http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8883.html
1971 CB175K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-9282.html
1972 - CB350 Rest-Mod-Cafe, current project http://vjmog.com/ftopicp-56578.html#56578
1977 CT70 - Swap Meet Scooter
2004 Rune - Cruiser
1974 RD350 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10725.html
2014 CB1100 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10949.html
2003 HD Road King
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As usual, neat stuff Ray. Keep it coming.

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