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1977 GL1000, low miles but needs work
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K5
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 4:18 am    Post subject: 1977 GL1000, low miles but needs work Reply with quote

Been looking for a 77' Gold Wing for a while. Its the year & model I purchased new and should have never sold. Found this one on the east side of the state. Its got 12,437 miles, and by my inspection appears to be correct. According to the PO; he's the second owner. The first owner was his neighbor, rode the bike a few years, then stored it in a hanger for 30yrs. The fuel & antifreeze was left in it so there's some work along with misc maintenance & cosmetic stuff. Its not a show bike, but rather my daily driver. Hope to have it on the road soon.

Here's some pics.

Just after bringing it home.


Had to rebuild the front calipers (leaking)


Left connection on muffler was rusted apart, will need to weld a new piece in


Partial dis-assembly to get the tank out and check the wiring. I also bead blasted the shelter and will powder coat it along with the tank


Front cover off to replace water pump and seals


Here's a shot of the old & new style pump (OEM, they don't give em away)


Cleaned up the front cover, painted, and reinstalled. The stock philips head screws were a bear to get out. Switch em for allens


Also pressure tested the radiator - held pressure!


Radiator & misc bits after cleaning & painting


The 1st owner had a thing for chrome, and time worked its magical on pretty much all of it.


Picked these up from a local salvage yard along with other parts. Bead blasted & painted them.


New timing belts were installed by the PO about a year ago, with 1000 miles on them. Adjusted the valves too.


Crankcase breather needed a new foam pad, the old one crumbled in my hand.


I'll try to be timely with updates.
Always looking to learn, so any comments or suggestions are appreciated.

Thanks

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1975 CB750K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8591.html
1977 GL1000 - Daily Driver http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8883.html
1971 CB175K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-9282.html
1972 - CB350 Rest-Mod-Cafe, current project http://vjmog.com/ftopicp-56578.html#56578
1977 CT70 - Swap Meet Scooter
2004 Rune - Cruiser
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a nice Goldwing (quite low mileage as well) you found K5, and it looks like you're well on your way getting it sorted out. Hope the engine checks out well also for you.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice job on your project. As you well know, NGW has all the answers to any questions you might have. I love my wings (75 &7Cool. Very Happy You should consider coming to the NGW rally this year. At the rate you're moving along, your bike should be ready.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: 1977 GL1000, low miles but needs work Reply with quote

K5 wrote:
The fuel & antifreeze was left in it so there's some work along with misc maintenance & cosmetic stuff.
Did you find crystallized old coolant in the water pump and thermostat areas? If yes, you can bet the water tubes and heads are also full of that crap. It would be worth your time to pull the water tubes for a look, and replace the O rings and gaskets on the tubes and fittings.

Stu
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only crystal bits were by the pump seal. I removed the thermostat housing. None there or down the tubes. Thanks for the advice.
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1975 CB750K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8591.html
1977 GL1000 - Daily Driver http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8883.html
1971 CB175K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-9282.html
1972 - CB350 Rest-Mod-Cafe, current project http://vjmog.com/ftopicp-56578.html#56578
1977 CT70 - Swap Meet Scooter
2004 Rune - Cruiser
1974 RD350 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10725.html
2014 CB1100 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10949.html
2003 HD Road King
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Valve covers & belts covers cleaned up


Yup... wife took a picture of me polishing the covers


After a couple of hours

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Remembering the past... Liv´n the dream

1975 CB750K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8591.html
1977 GL1000 - Daily Driver http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8883.html
1971 CB175K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-9282.html
1972 - CB350 Rest-Mod-Cafe, current project http://vjmog.com/ftopicp-56578.html#56578
1977 CT70 - Swap Meet Scooter
2004 Rune - Cruiser
1974 RD350 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10725.html
2014 CB1100 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10949.html
2003 HD Road King
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray,
You're doing a really nice job. I went through all the same things for my '76 LTD about 5 years ago. The PO had it a warehouse for 30 years with only 5,000 miles on it. Like your PO, he also was a chromosexual. I removed over 50 lbs. of chromed crap and tossed it. Got some period Hondaline luggage for trips. Good idea to replace the coolant pump. My original started making rattling noises, like marbles in a can. The bearing balls fell out of the races. Shocked BTW, I believe your PO replaced the radiator side shrouds with chromed ones from a '76 LTD. Yours originally were the same color as the rest of the bike, and pin striped.

Stu

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul & Stu thanks for the kind words.

Stu, Your LTD looks amazing! Nice work. Your right about the radiator side shields. They "were" chrome. I stripped em, and will powder coat them Black (pin stripping might come later).

I like your windshield (not too big, or too small). Who makes it and what model.

Thanks again,

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Remembering the past... Liv´n the dream

1975 CB750K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8591.html
1977 GL1000 - Daily Driver http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8883.html
1971 CB175K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-9282.html
1972 - CB350 Rest-Mod-Cafe, current project http://vjmog.com/ftopicp-56578.html#56578
1977 CT70 - Swap Meet Scooter
2004 Rune - Cruiser
1974 RD350 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10725.html
2014 CB1100 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10949.html
2003 HD Road King
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update on the front brakes

After bleeding they felt a little spongy. I held in the lever with a bungie cord overnight so air could escape through the compensating port in the master cylinder. Helps if you turn the bars to the left too. Worked great, brake are very firm now.


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Remembering the past... Liv´n the dream

1975 CB750K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8591.html
1977 GL1000 - Daily Driver http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8883.html
1971 CB175K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-9282.html
1972 - CB350 Rest-Mod-Cafe, current project http://vjmog.com/ftopicp-56578.html#56578
1977 CT70 - Swap Meet Scooter
2004 Rune - Cruiser
1974 RD350 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10725.html
2014 CB1100 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10949.html
2003 HD Road King
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

K5 wrote:
Paul & Stu thanks for the kind words.

Stu, Your LTD looks amazing! Nice work. Your right about the radiator side shields. They "were" chrome. I stripped em, and will powder coat them Black (pin stripping might come later).
Shocked Rats! I was going to offer to buy those from you and send you a painted set (that need repaint).
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I like your windshield (not too big, or too small). Who makes it and what model.
It's a Hellfire model from Slipstreamer. Most of their models don't have the hardware to attach to older fork/headlamp ear styles. But they do have what we need. I just called and talked to the boss, and he fixed me up.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

K5 wrote:
Update on the front brakes

After bleeding they felt a little spongy. I held in the lever with a bungie cord overnight so air could escape through the compensating port in the master cylinder. Helps if you turn the bars to the left too. Worked great, brake are very firm now.


Ray,
I had the same issue and corrected it with a new set of brake hoses from Sirius Consolidated. That trick with the bungee cords is a brake bleeding myth that's become Internet Knowledge. It doesn't actually purge air from the system. What it does is allow the caliper piston seals time to relax and slide over the pistons while pressure is still applied, so they don't retract the pistons much after the lever is released. The pads stay pretty much in contact with the rotor - not firm contact, but enough to make the lever travel very short. Racers used this to make their brakes very sensitive. But if you have some other issue in the system like soggy old brake hoses, the symptom will return after the brake pads wear a bit.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stu, the chrome was starting to come off the shields.

On a previous post you mentioned the seals & gaskets on the coolant passages. I had removed the right side and it looked good. A little bird kept telling to check the left. Sure enough... it was corroded and the o-ring was look'n like it wasn't going to last too much longer. I ended up bead blasting the tubes & end castings. I coated the left side with JB Weld and will let dry. Tomorrow I'll smooth the sealing areas up and put a coat of paint on them. Thanks for the tip, which I'm sure saved me some grief.

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Remembering the past... Liv´n the dream

1975 CB750K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8591.html
1977 GL1000 - Daily Driver http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8883.html
1971 CB175K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-9282.html
1972 - CB350 Rest-Mod-Cafe, current project http://vjmog.com/ftopicp-56578.html#56578
1977 CT70 - Swap Meet Scooter
2004 Rune - Cruiser
1974 RD350 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10725.html
2014 CB1100 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10949.html
2003 HD Road King
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The point assembly was replaced by the PO with a Prestolite ignition. I have no experience or background with these, but it works.


If you look at the first photo in the thread; you'll notice the bike came with red lenses in the rear. Amber is standard. The PO put dual element sockets/bulbs and wired in the running lights. I like the amber, so the wiring got cleaned up. There was also some misc wiring for a Vetter fairing, and the Prestolite ignition was hard wired in, no way to disconnect if needed. I ended putting two Hitachi connectors, one at the rear & one up front.


Hit a jackpot at the salvage yard ($2.00). The coolant tubes and ends where in good shape. The resistor block & diodes were good too. I'll cut off the float arm to the sending unit and put it on while I'm sealing the tank. The two fuel taps are the rebuildable types (mine is good, but isn't rebuildable - rivets versus screws)


Cleaned & Painted the coolant tubes & ends

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Remembering the past... Liv´n the dream

1975 CB750K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8591.html
1977 GL1000 - Daily Driver http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8883.html
1971 CB175K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-9282.html
1972 - CB350 Rest-Mod-Cafe, current project http://vjmog.com/ftopicp-56578.html#56578
1977 CT70 - Swap Meet Scooter
2004 Rune - Cruiser
1974 RD350 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10725.html
2014 CB1100 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10949.html
2003 HD Road King
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ray, you do some very nice work and it's amazing how quickly that you're moving along! Sooo, when your done with your current project, I'll send you a couple of mine to finish up, OK?? Laughing

By the way, the petcocks with rivits can be drilled out and screws installed to allow them to be rebuilt.

Keep up the great work.

................Paul

mmmmmmh, I love the smell of freshly painted parts cooking. Laughing Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

05, thanks for the compliment & the tip on the petcock. Sorry but can't accommodate your bikes right now. Got a few other projects waiting.

The freshly baked parts... like cookies from heaven Shocked Smile

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Remembering the past... Liv´n the dream

1975 CB750K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8591.html
1977 GL1000 - Daily Driver http://vjmog.com/ftopict-8883.html
1971 CB175K5 - Restored http://vjmog.com/ftopict-9282.html
1972 - CB350 Rest-Mod-Cafe, current project http://vjmog.com/ftopicp-56578.html#56578
1977 CT70 - Swap Meet Scooter
2004 Rune - Cruiser
1974 RD350 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10725.html
2014 CB1100 http://www.vjmog.com/ftopict-10949.html
2003 HD Road King
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