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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our bikes have seperate front turn signal grounds because they are rubber mounted. The grounds are the black/white wires that connect to the aluminum blocks inside the fork ears that the TS shaftes go through. The same black/white wires ground the headlight too. However, this is not a 100% reliable grounding scheme due to the fact it goes to the frame through the steering head bearing.

I had a frustrating problem with erratic TS function when I put my '75 back together. Sometimes normal function, sometimes slow flashing, sometimes only one side would work, etc. I fixed it by running a seperate ground from the frame that I jumped into the black/white circuit inside the headlight (thus bypassing the steering head bearings). Everything has worked perfectly since then.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i tried grounding to the bolt holding the forks to the frame and it was no better.i have an electronic flasher,so i thought it might have gone bad,and bought another at an auto parts store.it would not even turn on the signals,let alone flash.so i put my original one back in.at least they light now.the flasher i have has all the writing worn off so i can't even begin to find another like it. it is rectangular and has a kind of belt clip on it.2 connector.again,it may not be that,but the switch works and the signals do light,the flasher clicks once when the switch is turned on,but no more.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i did swap the bulbs to no avail.now neither one flashes
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's most likely the problem is the ground circuit of black/white wires in the headlight that grounds the front turns signals. Here are a couple pics of the ground jumper I made (has blue crimp connectors) and where I grounded it to the screw on the frame.


Your electronic flasher should work as long as the turn signals are properly grounded. If you disconnect the 2 front ones completely, do the rear ones flash?

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Previously - 70 Suz T350, 71 Suz TS250, 72 Suz GT380, 72 Suz TS125, 72 Suz TS250, 75 Yam YZ360B, 72 Suz GT380 diy cafe racer, 80 Suz GS750, 73 Suz TS185, 82 Suz GS1100
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe this 69 ts250 wiring can help ?? see below link

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2- Suzuki TS250ER
3 - Suzuki AC50
4 - Yamaha RD250 dressed as RZ
5 - Suzuki GSXR250R 1991
6 - Suzuki 1985 gsxr750
7 - Suzuki 1984 GSX-R400
8 - Suzuki1984 RG250
9 - 1987 Nsr 250 mc-16
10 - Honda vfr400r 1991
11 - Suzuki rm250 1996
12 - Suzuki gsxr 750t 1996
13 - Triumph Daytona 955i 2002
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iv been using these 6v bulbs
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woops wrong link i cant find the link i was looking for but this might do

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2- Suzuki TS250ER
3 - Suzuki AC50
4 - Yamaha RD250 dressed as RZ
5 - Suzuki GSXR250R 1991
6 - Suzuki 1985 gsxr750
7 - Suzuki 1984 GSX-R400
8 - Suzuki1984 RG250
9 - 1987 Nsr 250 mc-16
10 - Honda vfr400r 1991
11 - Suzuki rm250 1996
12 - Suzuki gsxr 750t 1996
13 - Triumph Daytona 955i 2002
14 - Suzuki ac50ll 1973(current bike)
15 - Yamaha R1 2013
16 - Honda CBR600RR 2003


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just thought a halogen would be brighter at night
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Billybobbigbear

Did you post the right link? The one you have there has pictures of dual filament bulbs like are used for combination tail/brake lights.

'74 TS250 turn signals have SINGLE filament bulbs and sockets. The double filament bulbs will not even fit a single filament socket and if they did they wouldn't work anyhow.

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Previously - 70 Suz T350, 71 Suz TS250, 72 Suz GT380, 72 Suz TS125, 72 Suz TS250, 75 Yam YZ360B, 72 Suz GT380 diy cafe racer, 80 Suz GS750, 73 Suz TS185, 82 Suz GS1100
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so,at your suggestion i grounded the signals better,and it made no difference.if they light,they are grounded,right?they just don't flash.when i turn on a signal,the flasher clicks twice.when i first got them working,again,being an electronic flasher,they flashed without the bike running.i still think it's the flasher.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed, if they light up normally but just don't flash the grounds are probably good. A replacement electronic flasher would be my next move. Fortunately, they are real cheap and pretty much any 6v one you can get at Autozone or similar should work.

Did you ever try it with the front ones disconnected? That might be informative. When i was having the issue with mine the electronic flasher did flash the rears all by themselves perfectly. However, I was going for authenticity and really wanted to use the original thermal flasher. The only way I could get that to work was with the bulletproof ground to frame I made.BTW, that bulletproof ground to the b/w wires in the headlight shell also helps keep your headlight bulb from burning out.

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Currently - 75 Suz TS250, 02 Kaw ZX-6R

Previously - 70 Suz T350, 71 Suz TS250, 72 Suz GT380, 72 Suz TS125, 72 Suz TS250, 75 Yam YZ360B, 72 Suz GT380 diy cafe racer, 80 Suz GS750, 73 Suz TS185, 82 Suz GS1100
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

woops my mistake i renewed the link
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1-Suzuki FA50
2- Suzuki TS250ER
3 - Suzuki AC50
4 - Yamaha RD250 dressed as RZ
5 - Suzuki GSXR250R 1991
6 - Suzuki 1985 gsxr750
7 - Suzuki 1984 GSX-R400
8 - Suzuki1984 RG250
9 - 1987 Nsr 250 mc-16
10 - Honda vfr400r 1991
11 - Suzuki rm250 1996
12 - Suzuki gsxr 750t 1996
13 - Triumph Daytona 955i 2002
14 - Suzuki ac50ll 1973(current bike)
15 - Yamaha R1 2013
16 - Honda CBR600RR 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah,i tried it with the front disconnected and there was no difference.so,using the thermal,do they flash at idle?i have a thermal and mine would not flash at idle
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, they even flash with the engine off too - slowly. I just tried it a minute ago. That makes me wonder - how good is your battery?

I am not suggesting you use a thermal flasher though. They are a PITA. The solid state ones work better and if yours are having problems with a solid state I bet the thermal will be even worse.

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Previously - 70 Suz T350, 71 Suz TS250, 72 Suz GT380, 72 Suz TS125, 72 Suz TS250, 75 Yam YZ360B, 72 Suz GT380 diy cafe racer, 80 Suz GS750, 73 Suz TS185, 82 Suz GS1100
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just put the thermal back in to see if it would work at idle.nope.signals still light when switched on,but no flashy
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so i think i have determined that my electronic flasher is bad.ordered another one,be here monday.i want to ride today-street.i have a thermal flasher that came with the bike and would only work at a higher rpm.put it in,not expecting it to work at all-it worked fine-but not when i'm stopped.is there any fix for this?i saw a video of a guy that wired 10ohm 10watt resistors to his signals to make them flash.would that work here?
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