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Suzuki X6 Oil Pump

 
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 1:22 pm    Post subject: Suzuki X6 Oil Pump Reply with quote

I could use an oil injection pump assembly for a 1966 Suzuki T20 - stripped a fitting on mine Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Suzuki X6 Oil Pump Reply with quote

Numbersrunner wrote:
I could use an oil injection pump assembly for a 1966 Suzuki T20 - stripped a fitting on mine Crying or Very sad
Welcome to the VJMOG.

What exactly was damaged? It can't be repaired?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 4:37 pm    Post subject: Suzuki X6 Oil Pump Reply with quote

The left cylinder feed banjo bolt stripped out the threads in the pump body. If I can't source a replacement pump I'll have to try heli-coil.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There was also a offload version called the TC 250 X6 Scrambler see parts list with part numbers no stock but the part numbers may be useful for cross reference etc
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Billybobbigbear wrote:
There was also a offload version called the TC 250 X6 Scrambler see parts list with part numbers no stock but the part numbers may be useful for cross reference etc
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these guys are said to have a oodd supply of t20 parts see below link

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8 - Suzuki1984 RG250
9 - 1987 Nsr 250 mc-16
10 - Honda vfr400r 1991
11 - Suzuki rm250 1996
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:16 am    Post subject: Crooks Suzuki Reply with quote

Thanks very much - I'll contact them.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:23 am    Post subject: Re: Suzuki X6 Oil Pump Reply with quote

Numbersrunner wrote:
........... If I can't source a replacement pump I'll have to try heli-coil.
I don't know that I would gamble on buying a used oil pump that may, itself, have some issues when I have a known working pump. I suppose it will come down to how much another pump would cost, etc.

I have installed a few thread inserts in a couple of pumps over the years. I got the kit at one of the local auto supply stores.

Like this one but 6mm. https://www.carid.com/oem-tools/m12-1-25-spark-plug-thread-repair-kit-mpn-25640.html?singleid=87721916

Just a couple of tricks you need to know if you decide to go this route.


Because the pump is aluminum, you may not even have to drill out the hole before tapping if the hole is completely stripped. Your call and if you do, the drill bit(not included in kit) size is 6.3mm or 1/4"....as it should say on the package.

I found I had to clip off a little of the top coil to shorten the overall length of the insert before starting.


Three reasons I did that:

Sorry, if you already know all this but...

You need to not only leave the insert at least 1 to 2 turns from the bottom of the hole so the banjo bolt won't jam because of the bottom taper of the special tap that comes in the kit and 1/4 to 1/2 turn below the top of the hole. Also, if I remember correctly, an insert winding could block the oil passage toward the bottom of the hole.

Grease the tap well. The grease will pick up shavings/chips from the tapping. Pull the tap out a couple of times, clean it, an re-grease it each time. You might even turn pump upside down while withdrawing the tap and clean out the hole with a wooden toothpick each time.
Obviously, you don't want any tiny shavings entering the pump

The main thing is to make sure you stay perfectly straight up and down with the hole while drilling (if needed) and tapping.

Wind the insert in per the instructions and you will probably need to break off the insert tang. Do it per the instructions and fetch it out with a toothpick if needed with a little grease on the end.

If you make a mistake and the insert is not in far enough(insert needs to be a 1/4 to 1/2 turn from top of hole) or too far in than it is possible to pull/stretch out the coil by getting a hold of the end with a pic and a pair of pliers....toss it and install a new one....not making the same mistake.
I had to do this the very first I did one of these pumps and it did not damage the newly tapped threads as I stretched the insert out of the hole but this is some old aluminum so I'm saying damage to the new threads is possible.....just a heads up. Just do some measuring .....mark or wrap some tape around the tap as a stop reference if you need to and take your time.

Good Luck on whatever you decide.

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